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Biatch-1998850848Another HIV-positive man is facing charges for infecting a woman with the disease. Evidently Lester Felix knew he was HIV-positive and chose not to disclose his status to his date. On the other hand, she did not ask if he had HIV or any other communicable diseases and she chose not to use a condom when they had sex. The woman has now got the police and the law involved and the man (who KNEW HE WAS HIV-POSITIVE) has been charged with aggravated assault.

This is – as the English would say – a sticky wicket.

Should she have asked his status before getting intimate? Yes.
Should she have insisted he wear a condom during sex? Yes.
Should he have disclosed his HIV status before sex? Yes.


That folks, is life in a perfect world. We don’t live in a perfect world.

There are now many people – especially in the gay community – who are horrified that this is becoming a legal matter. They say it criminalizes people with HIV who are already stigmatized. Now, the woman in question who is the “victim” has been turned into the “menace” because she called the cops, while the man WHO KNEW HE WAS HIV POSITIVE, SAID NOTHING and infected her is now the “victim”. It’s getting stickier in here.

In all this convoluted mess, the one thing that really sticks in my craw is that she’s being referred to as a “Dumb Bitch.”

She did not ask his sexual history or health: Dumb Bitch!
She did not insist on using a condom for sex: Dumb Bitch!
She called the cops and pressed charges: Dumb Bitch!

This whole “dumb bitch” things makes me think of women who find themselves otherwise victimized by their partners. If a woman meets a guy, goes out with him and gets raped, is she a dumb bitch for not asking if he has raped other women? If a woman goes out on a date with a man and gets severely beaten, is she a dumb bitch for not asking if he has a history of aggression toward women?

hiv-aidsI understand that this is a very complicated issue for a lot of people – and a very emotional one. But to call a woman a dumb bitch because she didn’t ask the right questions of this guy is unfairly punishing her. And I think it’s really shameful coming from the gay community. Weren’t we blamed for GRID and Gay Cancer 25 years ago? Weren’t we maligned by politicians and religious zealots as disease mongers? Weren’t we shunned by health care workers who refused us treatment? Weren’t we looked on as dirty faggots who got what we deserved?

No, she did not act responsibly when it came to her sexual health but neither did he. Ask yourself this: have you broached the topic of HIV status and other STI’s with EVERY ONE OF YOUR PARTNERS? Have you ALWAYS and without fail used a condom in each and every sexual situation you’ve been in? Judging by the unrelenting cases of new HIV infections, I’m going to say, no.

So the question is: are you a Dumb Faggot?

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  1. alexus Says:

    Wow.. All I have to say is whoever wrote this piece is a genious.. with absolute common sense.
    I’ve been folowwing this story since i herd about it .. and was given a link to the article about the woman being a dumb bitch… I was highly offended, being a woman that I feel is fairly responsible, educated and intelligent, who in the same breath make descions that are not always the best for us in the long wrong.. I LOVED THIS ARTICLE AND THANKYOU FOR SHARING!

  2. Lady G Says:

    Well said! I am not homophobic and think that the fact he is gay shouldn’t be a target. However…I do think that he is getting a taste of his own medicine. People make mistakes, but if someone is infected, they shouldn’t even have to be asked. That’s almost as stupid as someone saying “Well, I didn’t tell him/her I was in a relationship because they never asked” If someone solicits you online, the likeliness that they want someone who is already involved is slim. And, if for some reason the assumption is made…it is up to the person in the relationship to disclose. Furthermore, if two people are hooking up sexually on a casual level…it is smart to wear protection, but we all know that even condoms break. I am sure that they are not thinking…”YES, I finally found a man who I think has HIV.” He/she is probably thinking that you too are clean and would want to be involved with someone clean.

    I don’t think I have EVER asked someone while on a date “Hey, do you have HIV” and I am sure that if the person is deceitful, they will not answer “Yes, I am…thanks for asking”

    It is up to the person who is infected to disclose. The only thing she is not so smart about doing was trusting someone who couldn’t be trusted and allowing herself to be contaminated because she didn’t take the extra measures to protect against herself. Asked the other party is the smart thing to do…but it is a BONUS. From now on, we should start asking our dates to come for an STD/HIV test before we move forward. And, even then…there is no guarantee he will keep his pants up. If someone is a liar, they will figure out ways to destroy you regardless.

  3. Jules J. Says:

    You are surely referring to Shaun Proulx’s “Dumb Bitch” blog post. I follow Proulx in various publications,and I think often he’s too smart for his own good. I am convinced by your response to what he says that you should trry reading it again, as clearly you’re just not getting it.Do you really think a known AIDS activist like Shaun really thinks anyone is a “Dumb Bitch” or is he just making a point creatively?

  4. Brandon Williams Says:

    Dumb Faggot kinda hurts but I am man enough to step up to the plate.

    Angry PHA is the stigma that I endure from my AIDS Service Organization and I’m man enough to step up to the plate on that also. I am angry!

    Person Living with HIV is something I own. I am rare, not many will step up to the plate on this one. I do! Yet 25% of my community in Toronto is living with HIV. Seems their are a lot of “Dumb Faggots” in Toronto.

    I was part of that conversation with Shaun.I admitted to being a Dumb Bitch in that conversation. I take that back! For me, A BITCH is a, Broad/Boy in total control of him/herself. At the time of my infection I was not in control. Judging by the drug statistics from Public Health it seems. Houston we have a problem! I am a BITCH now some just see it as angry.

    I was a drug addict. By this I mean I worked all week and “partied and played” all weekend. I have worked very hard to turn my life around. Most would pat me on the back for being responsible. It certainly has felt like I’v been in a crab pot every one trying to climb their way out over me, pulling us all in. (how dare I try to escape) It’s all very counter productive.

    Funny what it took was for me, was to realize that all I wanted was belonging. Our community can be cold. Obviously judging.

    For me their is a lot of things that led up to my infection. A lot of pressure form a community to be on thing or another. I am not a drag queen nor a leather boy never was, I tried to be. I was so dumb. All I wanted was to know who I am? I wanted to belonging. As Gay men we ALL can relate to wanting and needing belonging. Loneliness often was my only motivation to even go out to the baths. Sex is just not the same with a condom and the tina is so GOOD! but alas she is a BITCH.

    So I step up to the plate of Dumb Faggot, Angry PHA, and any other title that you wish to throw upon me. For me I know who I am. I own all of these. I am a BITCH. What do you own?
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  5. Fact Check Says:

    “Another HIV-positive man is facing charges for infecting a woman with the disease.”

    Actually at this point there is no evidence that the woman was infected. It’s great that you have strong opinions, but read the news stories more closely, please…

  6. Lady G Says:

    Fact Check you are incorrect. The person who charged him is not the person who was in the paper telling her story about sleeping with him. If you feel that we may be incorrect, then please take the time to highlight the quote you wish to dispute. It could be that you misunderstood and are in fact incorrect. One of the people who he infected recently was in fact a transgendered female as well. It could be possible that he was with men as well as women. Furthermore, the email that went out to the public back in 2005 (which I can redirect you to that post as well) clearly outlines that he had infected someone too. With that being said, Lester Felix has decided to play God with lives of others instead of him owning up to what his situation was and learning to cope with it. I personally approached him in 2005, where he denied it…and well 4 years later the truth has come to light

    Brandon: You are a brave man and a brave soul. I don’t agree with calling anyone a dumb faggot, but sometimes when people are angry or think of the first thing to come about…it isn’t always so positive. With being said, I may not be some who is infected, but I know of the struggle. I wasn’t an addict but I know what it feels like to have to TURN your whole entire life around and start from scratch when it really isn’t that easy. This area is full of crabs and I chose to rise above shortly after I had my son. A child who was born to almost a stranger and a situation that could have possibly landed me in your shoes, rather then those of a single mother. Nonetheless, I chose to take my unfortunate situation and turn in into the best thing that could have happened to me. Maybe the person who gives out breaks in life, decided he was going to do that. I just hope that others can see and hear the stories and be empowered by people like us who have overcame such barriers. I may not be a gay individual, but I am a black woman and know what it feels like to be subjected to various stereotypes both racial and gender specific. I also have faced plenty discrimination. ♥

  7. Fact Check #2 Says:

    In response to Fact Check:

    I agree that people should be checking their facts!

    However, whether the woman was infected or not does not matter under current Canadian law… People are facing charges for exposing others to HIV regardless of whether transmission or infection occurs.

    There is some useful information in this fact sheet from the Canadian HIV/AIDS Legal Network:

    http://aidslaw.ca/publications/publicationsdocEN.php?ref=847

  8. Ian Simm Says:

    The woman in question didnt have consensual sex with Lester flix, she was raped while she was sleeping.

    “he forced me to have sex with him… i was sleeping and have known lester for 4 years. and he fucked me while i was asleep. i didn’t even know what was going on until he was dropping the nasty all over my body. he is a sick fucked up person who honestly in my opinion deserves the death sentence. my life has completely changed because of this. i have to take 6 pills a day that make me puke every hour and on top of that have to deal with the emotional backlash of his actions.

    it’s hard hearing people say i should’ve made him wear one. when i didn’t even condone the sex between us. he just didn’t get the meaning of NO and took advantage of me when i couldn’t protect myself.”

  9. Lady G Says:

    One of the people who he infected recently was in fact a transgendered female as well.

    Correction: One of the people who he may have infected was a transgendered female. The charge in Toronto was actually based on the fact that he had sex with her and did not disclose. That is the real issue and he should be held accountable for that whether or not she ends up having it or not. That could take up to 3 or months before the test may reveal such evidence.

    However, one of the women he did in fact infect is in Manitoba, which is where he grew up and has since fled. He has charges from Manitoba that stem from that situation that is related to everything that has occurred here in Toronto.

  10. Brandon Williams Says:

    LADY G.

    You are a beautiful soul too. I believe that we all are, this awareness has come at a price.

    I wrote that comment because I was shocked it kinda hurt.
    I remember when I was growing up (Gay) we all talked about calling ourselves Faggot because it took the power away from others to use the word against us so I am a dumb, faggot, angry, PHA, BITCH.

    I wrote that because it the stereo typing. The placing in a box that our society loves to do. Unfortunately many of us don’t exactly fit into any of them and it leaves us feeling alone. It adds to the problem. I am not any better or worse my experiences have made me who I am and I would NEVER take any of them back.

    I changed my life to become a Life Coach for ALL people living with HIV. You are so right you are in a HIGH risk category being a Black Female. The stories of infection coming out of Africa make my skin want to evaporate.

    I tell my story because mine is not unique. it is a common story for the Church St. Area in Toronto. People think that it’s over. “I’m not at risk. He would tell me”.
    I am personally working on my 18th death since the beginning of the year the last happened last week. The next is sitting in the hospital in Montreal wasting away to insanity. Funny he is younger than me and has had the virus the same time as me.
    For him it was a choice. Quality of life over quantity of life. he simply could not afford his medications for 5 months. Too embarrassed to tell anyone A) That he was living with HIV B) that he could not afford his medications. For him a few more months of drugs was far better than a lifetime of HIV. It’s sad. I was there 7 years ago.

    I can not begin to express how many died of Drug overdose related HIV. How dare we even begin to put those two together. Lack of meaning and purpose in life is rampant in our community.

  11. RODGER Says:

    PEOPLE SHOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR OWN SEXUAL HEALTH. YES, IDEALLY PEOPLE WITH COMMUNICABLE DISEASES WOULD TELL THEIR PARTNERS, BUT SINCE ITS OBVIOUSLY NOT HAPPENING WHY BE “DUMB BITCHES” ABOUT LETTING STRANGERS INSIDE YOU WITHOUT A CONDOM, GAY, STRAIGHT, TRANS?

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  12. Lady G Says:

    Rodger:

    Being promiscuous or being involved sexually with someone you barely no is never a good thing. As I said earlier (on my facebook group) the problem stems further than just sex. If a person doesn’t feel good about them self, then they will not make wise decisions. Unhealthy decisions do not come from someone just being stupid person. Sometimes it comes from the feeling of wanting to be loved or the need to belong. Maslow’s hierarchy will depict that clearly.

    1.The University grad, who’s grade point average surpasses everyone makes the mistake of getting hooked on cocaine, because she finally feels accepted by a group of people. Maybe when she was younger, no one liked her because she was a geek.

    2. The fat girl sleeps with the good looking guy who tells her how beautiful she is, because no one has ever told her that. He makes her feel loved and accepted. She trusts him because he says everything right!

    3. A female who has only seen love displayed from her father when he was drunk punching her mother into the ground. She grows up and finds the exact same person to be with, because that’s the reality of her world.

    We could call everyone of those people above stupid and each one of them could end up dead, in jail or even hurting someone else. I feel that society plays a big role in how we view ourselves and how we behave. It is easy to tell someone what to do when you are the strong one. But what about the obligation we have as humans? We as humans should have a moral obligation to look out for each others welfare. As an infected person, you have a moral and legal obligation to disclose your status. Just because I am silly enough to sleep with you the first night, doesn’t mean you say ” Well, I will just infect her to show her a lesson that she shouldn’t trust anyone” Only the evil and wicked do that. If society wasn’t so critical and put more emphasis of logical ways to approach LOVE, HAPPINESS, BELONGING etc…maybe more people would feel empowered instead of defeated.

    I am not disagreeing with anyone’s views on the behavioural aspects of this matter…I am just saying that the topic is not about DUMB bitches or Dumb gay people…it is about disclosure of life taking viruses and the people who feel the need to destroy others because they feel destroyed.

  13. Jules Says:

    I personally don’t think just because someone doesn’t ask whether their date is infected with an STD that this makes them dumb (“dumb bitch”). Actually most people assume that their “date” is a decent human being and would not go around infecting others with disease. Granted, she should have insisted that he wear a condom…dah! I bet if she HAD asked him, he would have lied and said no, that there is nothing to be concerned about, because obviously he’s a scum bag so I wouldn’t doubt that he’d have lied about his health. It’s sad that we cannot presume if someone is going to engage in sexual relations with another person that they are at least decent enough to say, before things get too heated, that they have a serious health issue. Bad on both of them but I don’t blame her for having charges laid.

  14. AngelEyz Says:

    I have a few things to say on behalf of my friend Lester Felix. Never once did Nevaeh tell him that she/he was a transgender cause if that had been mentioned Lester never would have befriended her …she NEVER told him but he DID tell her about his status. Lester is not the animal that u all make him out to be nor is he gay!
    Donna is a good storyteller she loves all the attention she has received…did she happen to mention that she was pregnant by her baby dad or NOT…its funny how everytime that was mentiones she ignored it She should be at least 3 to 4 months…JOKE!!!
    The facts will speak for themselves in court.
    Just remember there are 2 sides to every story and what is written on paper does not match what was written of the Facebook wall….copies have been made…

    I also wish to state that he NEVER infected anyone…get the facts

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